And that's when people think i'm attacking them personally instead of their argument. Hard to have a discussion that way. You never mentioned any of that previously.
Ok, if you have compared a VO / Utopia to the Raal headphones and think they slam "very well", that's more than i've heard, and now i highly respect your opinion (it still is to some degree contrary to others). Because i only read about them up to this point. I will, but that will take a bit more time.
I've not even heard of the JVC SZ2000 before.
Edit: Based on your headphone choices, you seem to value details and technicalities more than dynamics, which is absolutely fair, all i said was that i am not that kind of guy, if the drawback is too much. You also seem to like a more Harman tuned midrange (or can enjoyably listen to it), the midrange of the DCA's and the Utopia was a bit too aggressive for me, so that could be another dealbreaker when it comes to the Immanis.